Translating Without a Judge

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RS-20260810x — re-rendering the first two chapters under the closed register: the translator's own logged decisions come out a coin-flip, and one Károli formula survives at ¶244

One sentence. Chapters I–II of «Szent Péter esernyője», first rendered at S127/S132 from a different copy-text with no register in existence, were re-rendered whole under the closed register and diffed: 160 divergence sites in 1,963 English words under the precedent's site rule, of which 5 are coded exclusively to a later register rule and 9 have one governing the wording; and on a pre-specified frame — the 22 decisions the translator logged before the comparator was opened — 12 agree and 10 differ.

And the register rule the arm could not found is still not founded. Across the five marked narration sites the arm renders in King James English, 8 of 11 marked verb forms occur in Károli but only 3 of 20 of their immediate bigrams do, and only one is more than incidental: ¶244's «Lőn nagy ámulás», where Károli has the identical frame seven times. With no archaizing-secular comparator this cannot separate biblical from merely archaic, so V12 stays demoted, erratum 1 does not fire, and §10 specifies the design that would decide it.

This page was rewritten after an independent post-hoc critic returned NEEDS-REDESIGN with 14 findings, 6 BLOCKING. All 14 were accepted; none was overruled. Three headline claims of the first draft — that the rate replicates, that the register is not what moved it, and that 23 of 24 decision sites converge — are gone, and §12 records what each was replaced with and why.

1. What was asked, and why it is a question about translating

ARM-legend §Done-when owes a craft report that says what the length made visible, and register.md §Unresolved names two things nothing had measured: what the change of copy-text cost, and the register's backwards blindness — the failure ARM-longwork named on Verga at S047 and RS-20260806d measured on Canth at S120, where eleven sites the closed register would now render differently had been caught by no erratum at all.

A craft report can assert those from memory. This one renders the early text again with the apparatus closed and codes the difference by cause.

The question is not about the apparatus. It is: when a translator works through a long book, where does the learning end up — in the prose, or in the rules?

2. The translation this is wired to, frozen first

Span F of T-szent-peter-esernyoje-R05-v1 — chapters I and II, ¶1–¶47, 1,381 Hungarian words → 1,963 English, log D62–D77 — was committed at 7eeeb4d before R04-v1 or R04-span2-v1 was opened. The three predictions in §7 and the decision frame in §6 are both inside that commit.

Blindness and its two declared breaches. collation.md §3 quotes the inherited rendering at two sites while arguing about the copy-text — ¶6 the priest son and ¶20 straggles — so those two sites are pre-exposed and marked wherever they appear.

The bias runs one way and it is stated. Note (bhb) measured the lead matching itself at up to 37 contiguous tokens across sessions, above its record against any published human translation. Self-similarity pushes the divergence count down and the agreement count up. A site that agrees may agree because a rule bound it or because the same translator reached twice for the same phrase, and the design cannot separate those.

3. The instrument, taken verbatim from the precedent

Site definition and causal classes are E-20260806d-first-span-again §4.3 and §4.2, copied word for word so the two counts are constructed the same way:

align paragraph by paragraph, then word by word (difflib.SequenceMatcher over whitespace-split tokens, case- and punctuation-preserving); a divergence site is a maximal run of non-matching tokens, merged with the next when the two are separated by ≤ 2 matching tokens; sites differing only in punctuation or capitalization are recorded and excluded.

Classes, coded to exactly one cause by the precedence (E) > (A) > (C) > (B) > (D): (A) copy-text · (B) a later register rule · (C) something outside the span — a recurrence, a census, the whole book · (D) residual · (E) the earlier rendering is wrong against the Hungarian.

Paragraph mapping carries D64: R divides after «…falvak vannak» where M does not, so the inherited chapter II ¶2 is aligned against the new ¶18 and ¶19.

4. The count, and what the site unit is worth

paragraph pairs 46 (47 new paragraphs against 46 old — D64)
English words new 1,963, old 1,895 (Hungarian 1,381; factor 1.42 / 1.37)
punctuation/case-only sites 8, recorded and excluded
coded divergence sites 160
sites per 100 new English words 8.2

The site unit is an artefact of the merge rule, and the rule is arbitrary (sensitivity.py, run at the critic's finding 8):

bridge (matching tokens merged across) 0 1 2 3 4
sites 278 209 160 134 121
per 100 words 14.2 10.6 8.2 6.8 6.2

A 2.3× swing across a parameter nobody has a principled value for. The precedent's figure — Canth span 1, 234 sites in 2,764 English words, 8.5 per 100 — is built with bridge = 2 as well, which is the only reason the two numbers can be set beside each other at all. They are two whole- text comparisons in different languages, at different intervals, by a translator in a different state, and 8.2 against 8.5 is not evidence of a stable cross-work rate. It is a second reading of a quantity that has now been measured twice. Dropping the one-to-two paragraph pair moves 8.2 to 8.1, so the alignment irregularity is not what carries it.

The size statistic on the same alignment, which note (bkc) requires and no argument here rests without. (bkc) established at S127 that a site count cannot separate one hand from two, because one hand parts from itself in nearly as many places and the places are a fifth the size.

this span (bkc), one hand against itself blind (bkc), two different hands
pooled agreement 0.734 0.814 0.317 – 0.650
sites per 100 source words 11.59 20.06 23.2 – 29.1

The lead re-rendering itself across twenty-two sessions, a changed copy-text and a closed register is still closer to itself than any two different hands in that reference were to each other — and measurably further from itself than the blind self-rendering the note measured. Per-paragraph agreement runs 0.458 to 0.933.

class sites what they are
(E) correction 2 ¶18 kávémasina, ¶31 tanférfiú — §5
(A) copy-text 6 + the paragraph division ¶5 and ¶11 place-name orthography, ¶11 Ferencz, ¶6 fia*, ¶20 the italic, ¶20 leng*, and ¶18/¶19
(C) whole-work 6 four in ¶7 (the clause-level marking, D67), ¶42 and ¶44 (the méltóztat- recurrence, D68)
(B) later rule 5 ¶11 V4, ¶35 V22, ¶41 and ¶47 V21, ¶42 V20
(D) residual, unattributed 141 everything to which the translator-coder assigned no higher-precedence cause

* pre-exposed.

Two numbers for the register, and the difference between them matters. (B) = 5 is an exclusive residual: precedence sends a site to (A) or (C) whenever a copy-text reading or a whole-work argument also touched it. Nine sites have a post-S132 rule governing the new wording — the five above, plus ¶42 and ¶44 (V20 and V21, coded (C)), ¶20 (V8, coded (A)) and ¶11 (V4, coded (A)). The exclusive count is biased down and (A)/(C) are correspondingly inflated as sole explanations. Neither number estimates the register's total effect, because the re-rendering changed the copy-text, the register, and twenty-two sessions of the translator's experience at once, and nothing here isolates them.

(D) = 141 is not a demonstrated class. It is what was left. It will contain missed corrections, missed recurrences and unrecognised rule effects, and it is inflated by the deliberately strict (E) boundary in §5 and by precedence. RS-20260806d put its (D) class to three blind seats for exactly this reason; this run did not, so no ratio involving 141 is interpreted here.

5. The corrections, and the five cases the boundary was drawn against

These are the lead judging its own earlier rendering, which the charter forbids for quality (§5) and which this is not: they are claims about what the Hungarian says. All carry internal-judgment-only. The (E)/(D) boundary is evaluative and unstable, and the rejected cases fall into (D), which is one of the ways (D) is inflated. All five are listed so the boundary can be disagreed with:

Hungarian inherited (S127/S132) span F coded
18 «jár valami kávémasina … között» some sort of coffee-mill runs between some coffee-grinder of an engine runs between (E) — kávémasina is the village's contemptuous name for the branch-line train; the inherited English leaves a coffee-mill travelling and no engine in the sentence
31 «játszotta magát tanférfiúra» play the schoolman** setting up as a man of education** (E) — English schoolman is a scholastic philosopher; tanférfiú is a pedagogue
4 «Isten bűneül ne vegye» may God not lay it to her as a sin May God not count it a sin (D) — the inherited supplies a beneficiary the Hungarian withholds. Over-specification, defensible in context
13 «a pap bátyjának» her brother the priest her elder brother the priest (D) — báty is unambiguously the elder; the omission is a loss, not an error
30 «hanem az Úristen szolgája» but the Lord God's. but the Lord God's servant. (D) — the elided genitive is idiomatic English and the repetition survives in the next sentence

6. The pre-specified decision frame

The first draft of this page reported 23 of 24 named decision sites agree. That list was drawn after both texts were open and is selection on the outcome; the critic's finding 5 is accepted in full and the statistic is withdrawn.

Its replacement is a frame fixed before the comparator was opened: every English rendering named in span F's translator's log, D63–D76, frozen at 7eeeb4d. Anyone can enumerate it from the commit. decision_frame.py states each decision and the test on the inherited text.

agree differ
22 logged decisions 12 10

Agree — Máté (D63) · the three titles tanítóné/rektorné/kántorné kept apart (D69a) · thatched with straw (D70) · amice (D71b) · domine frater (D71c) · gee-gees (D72) · district magistrate (D74a) · tithing-man (D74c) · a shoulder-bag (D75b) · the money-belt (D75c) · the plum trees in double quotes (D76b) · árvalányhaj → orphan-girl's hair (D66).

Differ — the italic at ¶20 (D65) · ¶7's marked clause (D67) · méltóztat- at three sites (D68) · tanító/mester kept apart (D69b) · punctum (D71a) · your honour (D73) · my chief at both sites (D74b) · sweet fritters (D75a) · the Slovak in guillemets (D76a) · R's paragraph division (D64).

What the frame is and is not. It is pre-specified, reproducible and mixed in kind — some rows are single words, some are policies over several occurrences. It is not a sample of all decision opportunities in the span: a translator logs what felt like a decision, which over-selects contested sites, so 12/22 is not an estimate of agreement over the prose. What it supports is the narrow claim that on the decisions this translator himself thought worth writing down, the closed register and twenty-two sessions changed slightly under half of them.

D66 is the one worth reading twice. Its log entry argues for two paragraphs that orphan-girl's hair beats feather-grass because an orphan girl is at that moment being carted into the valley. The translator of S132, with no register, no census and no argument, wrote orphan-girl's hair — and added , they call it, which is the V8 site coded (A) in §4. The argument produced the choice the habit had already produced. One instance, offered as an instance.

7. The registered predictions

P-A — the copy-text bill, 4 to 7 sites. PASSES at 7, by a different route than the one registered. D77 named seven candidates. Three produced no English difference at all: ¶27 mondák/mondták (V6 sends both to a plain past), ¶32 fevde/fedve (both witnesses yield thatched with straw, the inherited rendering having used M, which is right), and ¶11 Máthé/Máté (D63 follows R's own dominant form). Three unnamed sites appeared instead — place-name orthography at ¶5 and ¶11, and Ferencz at ¶11. Excluding the two pre-exposed sites: 5.

The by-product is worth more than the pass. Of the four ⚑-marked candidates in these chapters — the marks collation.md puts on readings it judges will change an English word — one reached the English. Two were stopped by a register rule and by the other witness being right. A collation's ⚑ is a prediction about the translation, and on this span it was wrong three times in four.

P-B — backwards blindness, 6 to 15 sites. INVALID AS REGISTERED. The prediction did not specify how a site governed by two causes would be counted, and the two readings fall on opposite sides of the band: under the precedence rule adopted from the precedent after the prediction was written, (B) = 5 and it fails low; under P-B's literal wording — sites where a post-S132 rule makes the new English differ — it is 9 and it passes. Choosing between them now would be choosing after seeing the answer. The honest record is that the outcome metric was not operationally specified before analysis, that under the declared analysis rule it is a failure, and that the 9 is descriptive.

P-C — total sites, 90 to 140. FAILS at 160, and the band was arithmetically wrong. It applied the precedent's per-English-word rate to the Hungarian word count. At 8.5 per 100 English words the band should have been about 140–190. The prediction failed; nothing about the world was surprising. This is the class of error an independent pre-run critic catches in a line, and §11 says why none saw it.

8. The Károli check at the five marked sites

register.md §Unresolved 1 required the craft report either to defend the King James rendering at the five marked narration sites on non-statistical grounds or to issue erratum 1. RS-20260810b §7 named the live defence — the marking is clause-local and V12 was written at the wrong grain — and §8 suspected why two designs had failed: the biblical signal is concentrated in exactly the tokens the mask removes.

Exact denominators (karoli_phrases.py, computed not counted): 5 marked narration sites · 11 marked-form tokens · 11 distinct form types · 20 bigram tests, being the bigram before and after each token where one exists.

count
marked-form tokens whose form occurs in this Károli witness 8 of 11 (Lőn 691 · jövének 47 · hozának 28 · rendelé 24 · járulának 9 · elveszté 7 · kinyitá 4 · vagynak 2)
bigrams occurring in this Károli witness 3 of 20 — «vagynak a» 1, «kinyitá az» 2, «lőn nagy» 7

«Lőn nagy X» is the only one that is a construction rather than a coincidence. All seven Károli instances are the same frame with a different noun: lőn nagy jajgatás · lőn nagy öröm · lőn nagy csendesség ×3 · lőn nagy földindulás · lőn nagy hirtelenséggel. Mikszáth writes «Lőn nagy ámulás, bámulás, népek csodálkozása».

What this licenses.

  1. A candidate Károli-linked construction at ¶244, and nothing stronger. lőn is also common in nineteenth-century archaizing fiction, and this check has no comparator, so it cannot distinguish a biblical echo from ordinary period archaism. Section 10 specifies the design that could.
  2. A statement about the earlier instrument, bounded. RS-20260810b's mask removed lőn and hozának from ¶244, so its null does not test overlap carried by those forms; it remains informative about the unmasked remainder of the paragraph and nothing else. That is a fact about what was masked, not a claim that the device is there.
  3. V12 is not founded and is not refuted, and this check does not settle which. V12 asserts the layer is marked by scriptural lexis and syntax, never by bent verb morphology. On this witness the forms are Károli's morphology at 8 of 11 and the phrasing is Károli's at 1 of 20 — which is the pattern one would expect if V12 were wrong, and also the pattern one would expect if Károli's morphology were simply the common property of all archaizing Hungarian. No comparator, no verdict.
  4. Erratum 1 does not fire. It would flatten all five marked passages together on the strength of a null. The four sites with no Károli collocation stand as a compensation decision — English has no productive archaic preterite that is not comic — labelled as one, and not as a description of the Hungarian.

The check does not support the session's own translation at ¶7. Span F marked ¶7 on the same clause-level premise (D67). Of its three grounds one holds — oktalan állatok, 1 occurrence, in the Ecclesiastes 3:19 passage about the end of men being as the end of beasts, which is ¶7's own conceit, and calling that an allusion is internal-judgment-only. One is void: «gond vagyon» scores 0, but this witness has van 1,880 against vagyon 22 and is almost certainly the 1908 revision, which modernised the copula. One fails: higyjétek is Károli's, 27 times in Károli's own gyj spelling, but «higyjétek meg» is 0.

9. Cost

$0.03313625, one post-hoc critic call (openai/gpt-5.6-terra, provider OpenAI, finish_reason: stop, 6,004 in / 4,272 out). Key-usage delta 0.033136250, residual 0.000000000. Everything else — the re-rendering, the copy-text gate, the diff, the coding, the sensitivity analysis, the Károli fetch and the phrase check — was lead work at $0.00. The translation is free and never ledgered (charter §3, A4).

10. The design that is still owed

Unmasked, two-comparator, difference-in-differences. For each marked narration clause: Károli overlap minus archaizing-secular overlap, contrasted against the same difference for unmarked sibling clauses in the same paragraph, permuting the marked label within paragraph. Unmasked because the mask deletes the candidate device; two-comparator because the archaizing pool contains the same morphology, so a marked verb cannot by itself favour Károli; within-paragraph because it controls topic exactly. It needs a de-boilerplated, edition-identified Károli and the five-work historical pool RS-20260810b already built.

11. Limits

12. Discipline, deviation, and the critic

continue-prompt.md §6 requires frozen written design → independent pre-run critic pass → run → post-run verification. The predictions were frozen — D77, inside the committed translation, at 7eeeb4d, before the comparator was opened — but there was no design page and no independent pre-run critic. An independent post-hoc critic was run against the finished page instead (critic.py, runs/critic-out.md): NEEDS-REDESIGN, 14 findings, 6 BLOCKING, all 14 accepted, none overruled. A post-hoc critic is not a pre-run critic and is not reported as one.

What it changed, since the claims it removed were the loudest ones on the page:

finding was is
1, 2, 14 "the register is not what moved it"; (B) = 5 called "the register's measurable purchase" both withdrawn; 5 exclusive and 9 non-exclusive reported, neither called an effect estimate
3, 4 "141 are free variation", and a 7.4× ratio renamed residual, unattributed; the ratio is not computed; the five (E)/(D) boundary cases are tabled
5, 6 "23 of 24 named decision sites agree" withdrawn as selection on the outcome; replaced by the pre-specified 22-decision frame, 12 agree / 10 differ
7, 8 "diverges at the same rate", in the title withdrawn; the merge-rule sensitivity (278 → 121) is reported and the two figures are called two points
9 P-B "NOT DECIDED" INVALID AS REGISTERED, with the failure under the declared rule stated
10 "one of nine" wrong: 8 of 11 forms, 3 of 20 bigrams, computed
11, 12, 13 "V12 as written is inverted"; ¶244 "best-supported"; "the design could not have found this device" all three withdrawn for a comparator-free check; replaced by candidate construction, does not test overlap carried by those forms, and not founded and not refuted

Verification. diff_sites.py asserts the paragraph inventory (1–47 new, 1–16 and 1–30 old) before diffing, which is what caught a loader defect that had been reading -prefixed lines out of the translators' logs and overwriting the prose (159 → 160 sites, two nonsense sites removed). decision_frame.py caught an inverted test on D64 that had scored a paragraph-count difference as agreement (13/22 → 12/22). sensitivity.py and karoli_phrases.py recompute every figure in §4 and §8 from the artifacts and the fetched corpus.

The class assignments in §4 are not machine-verifiable and are not claimed to be. They are listed site by site so a later reader with the two texts can disagree with each one.