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E-20260811f — when the source grammaticalises a relation English has no slot for, is the mark relocated or lost?

Frozen 2026-08-11, before any call. The translation limb it hangs on (T-dakghar-R05-v1, span A) was frozen and committed at 78b6e17 before this design was written.

1. Where the question came from

It came from translating, at log decision D13. Two adjacent lines of «ডাকঘর» span A:

[71] মাধব: পিসিমা কি বল্লে? [72] অমল: পিসিমা বল্লেন, তুমি ভাল হও…

The same woman, named the same way, in two consecutive speeches, with one token different: the child gives his aunt the honorific conjugation and her husband does not. Bengali marks the footing between people grammatically — a closed system of second-person pronouns (আপনি/তুমি/তুই) and honorific verb agreement. English has one form. Register rule V5 decided to mark none of it and to log every site as a loss.

RS-20260808g-two-pasts asked the same shape of question about Hungarian's two past tenses in speech tags and found the mark relocated: Hungarian marks the attribution slot with a tense, English with a bleached said. This design imports that instrument and puts it on a system that is about people rather than about syntax, and where the loss looks total rather than compensated.

2. Question

At a site where a single Bengali token fixes the footing between two speakers, does an independent English hand — one that has never heard of this experiment — put anything into its English that a reader can tell apart from the English of the other variant?

Two outcomes are informative and neither is assumed. Relocated: independent hands differ, and the arbiters can name what carried it. Lost: independent hands produce English an arbiter cannot tell apart, at the same rate as the same hand differs from itself.

3. Materials — eight minimal pairs, one token apart

Every pair is a passage of «ডাকঘর» span A, from the frozen copy-text source-ipublishinghouse.txt, with variant A as printed and variant B differing in exactly one token. Nothing else in the passage changes.

Six DEFERENCE pairs — the edited token is a deference form and nothing else:

id unit who A (as printed) B (edit)
D-a [9] kabiraj → Madhab পারবেন না পারবে না
D-b [8] Madhab → kabiraj দিয়ে যান দিয়ে যাও
D-c [43] Amal, of his aunt ডাল ভাঙেন ডাল ভাঙে
D-d [71] Madhab, of his wife কি বল্লে কি বল্লেন
D-e [72] Amal, of his aunt পিসিমা বল্লেন পিসিমা বল্লে
D-f [22] Grandad → Madhab তোমার ভয় আপনার ভয়

Two CONTROL pairs — the edited token is not a deference form and must change the English:

id unit A B what changes
C-a [71] পিসিমা কি বল্লে? পিসেমশায় কি বল্লে? which person is being asked about
C-b [41] যেতে পারব না? যেতে পারলাম না? future ability → past

Direction is balanced inside DEFERENCE. Three pairs edit honorific → ordinary (D-a, D-c, D-e) and three edit ordinary → honorific (D-b, D-d, D-f), so a hand that simply renders the second text it is given differently cannot produce the effect.

4. Procedure

Stage T — the independent hands. Two non-Anthropic panel seats, neither the lead and neither an arbiter, are given one variant at a time, alone, with no mention of deference, honorifics, address, or that an experiment exists. The prompt asks for an English translation of the passage and nothing else.

Stage J — the arbiters. Three non-Anthropic seats, none of them a translating hand, are shown two passages at a time and asked one question, blind to which condition the item is and blind to the design.

Total, after the critic's amendment added C-c: 9 pairs → 54 hand calls + 45 items × 3 seats = 135 arbiter calls = 189 calls, plus the pre-run critic pass already spent.

Measure. d = 1 if the seat returns DIFFERENT, 0 if SAME. A cell that does not parse is void and reported, never imputed.

5. Registered gates and predictions

Written before any call. Every gate is a withholding gate: if it fails, the primary is not read.

Failure criteria. The run is void if: fewer than 90% of cells parse; any hand returns a body that is not a translation (a refusal, a commentary, a transliteration); or the arbiters return DIFFERENT on FLOOR at a rate above CROSS (which would mean the measure is noise).

6. The comparator, read as a translation — $0, after the run is dispatched

ARM-legend's craft report closed saying its comparator had been "measured for contamination and not read as a translation" (ES-20260810-craft-report-legend §5). This arm does the other thing at its first span. After Stage T is dispatched, the lead opens Devabrata Mukherjea's English (Macmillan, 1914) and records, at each of the six DEFERENCE sites, what an authorised human hand of 1914 did — with no scoring and no claim that agreement validates anything. It is a description placed beside the measurement, and the result page says so.

7. What this design cannot establish

  1. Two hands is two hands. A null here is a null about T-a and T-b on this material, not about English.
  2. Six pairs. The denominator is small and P1's margin is not a confidence interval.
  3. The arbiters share a training distribution with the hands. Four of the five seats used are frontier models; "an independent reader cannot tell them apart" means these arbiters.
  4. The edits are the lead's. Variant B is not attested text. The SOURCE gate is what stops that from being fatal, and it is a gate rather than a report for exactly that reason.
  5. Nothing here scores the lead's own translation, which no seat sees. The lead never judges its own translation (charter §5).

8. Declared deviations

9. Pre-flight cost estimate

Built from max_tokens, not from expected answer length (note (abc)).

stage calls prompt (est.) max_tokens worst-case
pre-run critic, qwen/qwen3.7-max (reserve slug, not a seat) 1 ~4,500 12,000 $0.08
Stage T, T-a moonshotai/kimi-k3 ($3/$15) 24 ~250 500 $0.20
Stage T, T-b x-ai/grok-4.5 ($2/$6), reasoning low 24 ~250 800 $0.13
Stage J, J1 openai/gpt-5.6-terra ($1/$6), reasoning off 40 ~400 900 $0.23
Stage J, J2 google/gemini-3.6-flash ($1.5/$7.5), reasoning low 40 ~400 1,200 $0.38
Stage J, J3 deepseek/deepseek-v4-pro (list $0.435/$0.87, priced at the 4× routing caution) 40 ~400 900 $0.15
169 $1.17

Declared ceiling: $1.40, raised from $1.25 with the reason written: the pre-run critic's SERIOUS 3 added a ninth pair (C-c), which adds 6 hand calls and 15 arbiter calls (+12%). UTC day 2026-08-11 stands at $3.294076857 of $5.00 before this run, so the ceiling leaves $0.46 of the day's cap unspent even if every call bills its worst case. max_tokens is set at 900–1,200 for the arbiters because S148 truncated a seat's hidden reasoning at a 500 cap and S157 truncated 25 bodies at 2,400 — the cap prices the estimate and must also be large enough to hold an answer.

10. Pre-run critic — adjudication

One pass, qwen/qwen3.7-max (reserve slug, neither a hand nor an arbiter), cap 12,000, finish_reason: stop, $0.015822325. Verdict NEEDS-AMENDMENT, 6 findings — 2 BLOCKING, 2 SERIOUS, 2 ADVISORY. Full text at critic.md. Four accepted, two accepted in part with the overrule written.

# finding adjudication
B1 G1 is tautological — the arbiters know Bengali honorifics metalinguistically, so a pass validates the tokenizer, not the stimulus ACCEPTED IN PART. G1 demoted from validity gate to asymmetric checksum and the design now says a pass licenses nothing. Overruled on removal: a fail is still decisive, and 27 calls is a cheap price for a signal that could void the primary.
B2 D-f is confounded — আপনার from Grandad to Madhab can read as estrangement or sarcasm, not deference ACCEPTED. D-f excluded from the primary, which is now the five verb-agreement pairs, and reported separately by name.
S3 the positive control is lexical, so passing it proves only that arbiters can read nouns ACCEPTED, and it is the same finding note (bkt) records against RS-20260808g's critic. C-c added: a footing change at a site where English does have a slot, promoted to G2b, the gate that matters.
S4 FLOOR conflates noise with benign paraphrase, so G3 could void a working instrument ACCEPTED IN PART. G3 raised to 0.40 and the void condition narrowed to FLOOR ≥ CROSS. Overruled: the proposed extra STYLE-FLOOR arm is what FLOOR already is — two runs of identical input by one hand differ in style and nothing else.
A5 the 0.20 margin is razor-thin at n = 6 ACCEPTED. Bootstrap 90% interval over pairs reported alongside.
A6 the arbiter prompt's "how they stand to each other" invites style-driven false positives ACCEPTED. Prompt rewritten before dispatch to name social relationship explicitly and to say that wording or style alone is not a difference.