Translating Without a Judge

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linksworkshop/experiments/E-20260726-genealogie-period/design.md, workshop/experiments/E-20260725c-contamination-sweep/design.md, workshop/translations/metamorphoses/R04-v1/translation.md, tools/ngram_overlap.py, workshop/regimes/R04-lead-close.md

Frozen design — period against form against translator identity: four translators of one poem, crossed

Frozen 2026-07-26 (S029). Nothing in §§1–9 is written after seeing a single overlap number. See §4 for the exact, and weaker-than-S028, statement of what the freeze covers.

The wire, in one sentence. The translation limb — 120 Latin hexameters of Ovid rendered blind, in four thirty-line windows fixed by a length-only rule — supplies the subject whose closeness to each of four published translators the study limb reads against a reference distribution built from those same four translators across all fifteen books, in which period and form are fully crossed, so that "the lead sits near a modern voice" can for the first time be told apart from "the lead sits near this one translator" and from "the lead sits near translations in this one form".

1. Why this runs

NEXT.md action 1, top action, third attempt at the same confound, and the first attempt with materials that can actually resolve it.

S028's A1 named the fix and the requirement: ≥2 public-domain translations and ≥2 freely readable modern human translations of the same complete unit. This design meets it, and adds a factor S028 could not vary at all — form — because in S028 every text was prose.

2. Questions

3. Materials

One poem, fifteen books, four published English translations plus the Latin plus the lead — a fully crossed 2 × 2 of period and form.

label translator year form period rights how reached
lat — (source) ed. Hugo Magnus 1892 hexameter — public domain Perseus canonical TEI urn:cts:latinLit:phi0959.phi006.perseus-lat2
riley Henry T. Riley, B.A. 1851 (Bell repr. 1893; McKay repr. 1899) prose historical public domain Project Gutenberg #21765 (Books I–VII) + #26073 (Books VIII–XV)
more Brookes More 1922 (Cornhill, Boston) verse historical public domain Perseus canonical TEI phi0959.phi006.perseus-eng3
kline A. S. Kline 2000 prose contemporary in copyright; free to reproduce for any non-commercial purpose (site notice) poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Metamorph{,2..15}.php
johnston Ian Johnston, Prof. Emeritus, Vancouver Island University 2010, rev. Oct 2011 verse contemporary in copyright; free to download and redistribute non-commercially (copyright.htm) web.viu.ca/johnstoi/ovid/ovid{1..15}.htm
lead the lead agent 2026 verse contemporary project artifact workshop/translations/metamorphoses/R04-v1/translation.md

The crossing, stated as the six published pairs. Every pair is labelled by its period relation, form relation and year-gap. These labels are fixed here, before measurement.

pair period form year-gap
kline~johnston same (contemporary) differ 10
riley~more same (historical) differ 71
more~kline differ differ 78
more~johnston differ same (verse) 88
riley~kline differ same (prose) 149
riley~johnston differ differ 159

Why these four and not others. Both contemporary translators had to be free, human, and cover the same complete work. Of Johnston's corpus only his Lucretius and his Ovid are still served on web.viu.ca; his Homer pages redirect to johnstoniatexts.x10host.com, which 404s on every content path tried (this is the second session to lose time to that host — S028 recorded it as serving an empty index; it is worse than that, it is gone). Of the works Johnston and Kline share, Ovid has fifteen books against Lucretius's six, so Ovid carries more than twice the reference distribution. Riley and More were then chosen to complete the crossing: one prose, one verse, both public domain, both machine-readable without OCR.

Note (d), applied and paid off. Every bibliographic fact in the table above was verified from an actual tool result this session, not from prior belief. Two priors were wrong: Johnston's Homer is unreachable, and johnstoniatexts.x10host.com is not merely an empty index.

Copyright hygiene (charter §7, rule 5). kline and johnston are in copyright. Both are fetched to a scratch directory outside the repository, reduced to counts, and never stored whole in the repo. What this experiment commits is derived statistics plus brief attributed excerpts. Both consultations are logged in wiki/base/consulted.md.

Encoding, per note (pp). johnston's pages are Word exports declaring windows-1252; kline's declare utf-8. Both declarations were read off the bytes this session and each file is decoded by the charset it declares. No file is decoded with errors='replace'; a decode error is a hard failure, not a degradation. S028 lost every apostrophe in a whole text to exactly this.

4. The freeze, stated exactly — and it is weaker than S028's

S028 could say that nothing English had been fetched. This session cannot say that, and will not imply it.

What was fetched before the freeze: the Latin TEI; Brookes More's complete English TEI; both Project Gutenberg Riley files; Johnston's Ovid table of contents and his Book 1; Kline's Ovid table of contents and his Book 1. All four English texts of Books 4, 9, 11 and 14 therefore sat on disk, unread, while the translation was made.

What was displayed and read before the freeze: file headers and bibliographic metadata; CSS class inventories and structural markers; per-book line and token counts; Johnston's Book 1 opening (~500 words) and Kline's Book 1 opening (~200 words), for the note-(mm) humanity gate. Book 1 is excluded from the targets by construction precisely so that this reading cannot reach a target.

What was not displayed: any English word of Books 4, 9, 11 or 14, from any of the four translators.

Why this is weaker, and what the residual risk is. The freeze rests on the discipline of not printing bytes that were already local, rather than on the bytes being remote. That is checkable in the session transcript but not in git. The honest statement is: the target English was available and was not looked at. A reader who does not credit that should discount Q4, which is the lead-dependent question; Q1–Q3 and Q5 do not depend on it at all, because they involve only published texts, and no choice in this design was made after seeing an overlap number.

The humanity gate, discharged (note (mm)). On Book 1, before target selection:

5. Procedure

5.1 Extraction, frozen

Structure was inspected before the freeze — heading lines, CSS class names and markers only, never target prose — which is how the five splitters above could be written down rather than tuned afterwards.

5.2 The statistic, frozen

Exactly the metric of tools/ngram_overlap.py, unchanged from E-20260725c-contamination-sweep §4 and used unchanged by S027 and S028: NFC normalise, map curly quotes to straight and em/en dashes to space, lowercase, delete everything outside [a-z0-9'], whitespace-split. For a pair of texts, count shared n-gram types for n ∈ {4, 5, 6, 7}, expressed as shared types per 1000 tokens of the shorter text. Headline n = 5.

5.3 The free parameter, bracketed rather than chosen (note (kk))

5.4 Alignment: the book, and nothing finer

The unit is the book, for every published–published measurement. Book boundaries are unambiguous in all five texts and are the one division every edition of this poem agrees on. No sub-book alignment is attempted anywhere in this design. This is deliberate: sub-book alignment defects cost S027 27 of 42 pairs and forced a declared post-hoc realignment, and Perseus's card divisions, Kline's line-range headings and Johnston's bracketed Latin line numbers are three different and mutually non-nesting schemes. Refusing to align below the book removes the entire failure class.

The consequence is accepted openly: the lead's 120-line translation is compared against whole books, not against the corresponding 120 lines. §5.5 is built so that this does not invalidate the comparison.

5.5 The lead's statistic: excess over each translator's own baseline

A short text compared against a long one yields a rate that is not comparable to a long-against-long rate, so the lead is never ranked inside the published–published distribution. Instead, for each published translator T and each target book B ∈ {4, 9, 11, 14}:

This is the same length, the same lead text, and the same translator on both sides of the comparison, so translator-specific vocabulary, form, register and text length all cancel. It is note (nn) — stop dividing, measure the distribution — applied per translator rather than per work.

Sixteen rank observations (4 books × 4 translators) is the lead's whole evidential contribution, and it is the weak part of this design, as three sections were the weak part of S028's.

5.6 The lead's form is declared, not discovered

The lead translated in verse, decided and written into translation.md before the Latin was read. The lead is therefore form-matched to more and johnston and form-mismatched to riley and kline, and this is a confound on Q4 that cannot be removed, only handled: §5.5's per-translator baseline absorbs it to the extent that a translator's form shows up in their mismatched books too, which is total for form and partial for form-linked diction. Any Q4 result in which the two verse translators pattern together is uninterpretable between form and period, and will be reported as such.

5.7 Controls

6. Predictions, registered

Registered before any overlap number existed. P5–P7 are the lead's fourth registered self-estimate; of the first three, two missed in the flattering direction and one held at the weakest level its wording allowed (note (jj)). Per note (qq), every prediction below is per-unit or per-pair, and none is a prediction about a mean over units.

7. Failure criteria, pre-committed

8. What each outcome licenses, and what it does not

result licensed reading
P4 holds, P5 fails Period is visible to this instrument among published translators, and form is not. This is the first positive evidence for H-period in the project, and it would mean the sweep's centrality results must be re-stated as partly an artifact of comparing 2026 prose against pre-1923 prose. It would still not establish that the lead is period-tracking — that is Q4.
P5 holds, P4 fails The sweep's centrality results are a form artifact, not a period artifact, and neither H-period nor H-lead is the right frame. This would be a new explanation, not a refinement of an existing one.
both hold Overlap is sensitive to both, and the two gap-matched contrasts (more~johnston gap 88 vs more~kline gap 78; riley~kline gap 149 vs riley~johnston gap 159) become the only way to weigh them. With one comparison per book per contrast, that is weak, and it will be called weak.
neither holds Period is not a dimension this instrument can see, and neither is form. H-period was never an available explanation of eight sessions of centrality results, and the sweep's "the lead is most central" findings need a different explanation entirely — most likely the geometric one of note (ll). This is the outcome that would matter most and it is a live possibility, not a formality.
P7 holds and P8 holds The lead's closeness is consistent with being period-shaped — and, exactly as in S028 A1, equally consistent with resembling these two particular translators, and additionally confounded with form per §5.6. Two translators per period is better than one and is still not a sample of a century.
P7 fails The lead is not period-tracking on this work. Combined with S028's sign reversal, that is two works on which the strong period hypothesis has failed at the level of the lead.

Nothing here is a quality claim about any of the five translations. Overlap is not merit, in either direction. The lead does not judge its own translation (charter §5); this experiment measures wording overlap and nothing else, and every figure it produces is internal-judgment-only and provisional until Tier D passes.

Extent, stated honestly. One poem, one language pair, four published translators, fifteen books, four target windows. The published–published reference distribution is 6 pairs × 15 books = 90 measurements and is the strong part. The lead's placement rests on 16 rank observations and is the weak part, and precision on the 90 does not repair the 16. "Contemporary" here means two translators, dated 2000 and 2010, one of them a professor emeritus and the other a solo digital publisher — that is not a sample of 21st-century English, and no sentence in the result may suggest it is.

9. Pre-run critic

Per charter §8, an independent pre-run critic pass on this frozen design, routed to a non-Anthropic panel model, before any measurement is run. S028's critic pass cost $0.0806 and was recorded as the best-value spend in the ledger; its two most valuable findings were rulings that predictions were unfalsifiable as written, both about tie-handling and rank direction. Per note (rr), this critic is pointed at the statistic definitions first and the argument second.

Findings and the response to each go in critic.md. Findings requiring a design change are applied by amending this file with the amendment marked and dated, never by silent edit; findings declined are recorded with the reason.

10. Amendments — added 2026-07-26 after the critic pass, before any measurement

Every amendment below was written before a single overlap number existed. analyse.py did not exist and runs/ contained only the critic response when this section was committed. Findings and the response to each are in critic.md; the numbering here is referenced from there.

A1 — §5.5's central claim was false and is replaced (critic Task E)

§5.5 said the per-translator baseline makes "translator-specific vocabulary, form, register and text length all cancel." That is wrong. Holding the translator fixed on both sides of the comparison holds those four things constant; it does not cancel episode-specific diction, named-entity density, literalness, or the interaction between any of those and the lead's particular window. The sentence is replaced by:

Both sides of the comparison use the same lead text and the same translator, so that translator's vocabulary, form, register and text length are held constant rather than eliminated. What is not controlled is episode-specific diction and named-entity density: the matched book is the one whose story the lead is telling, and shared proper names alone will raise the matched value. A2 exists because of that.

A2 — P7 must survive name exclusion or it is a name-density effect (critic Task B.6)

The critic's ruling that k = 0 "primarily demonstrates content alignment" is accepted. Consequences:

A3 — P4 and P5 are re-run on the residual, to absorb era-correlated extraction residue (critic Task B.2, C)

The two historical texts reach the project through two print-digitisation routes; the two contemporary texts through two web sites with navigation and section apparatus. Residue shared within an era inflates that era's pair and would manufacture a false P4. Control:

A4 — post-drop and post-exclusion computability (critic Task A, §5.5 / P7 / P8 / F1 / F2)

A5 — tie, threshold and degeneracy rules (critic Task A: P2, P3, F2, F3, F7)

A6 — P7's reading, pinned to one of the three the critic found (critic Task A)

P7 is evaluated in the strict form: the mean rank k over the four target books, computed per translator, must be lower for kline than for both riley and more, and lower for johnston than for both riley and more. Both contemporary means below both historical means. A single crossing pair means P7 fails.

Reported as secondary, not as P7: the paired-by-book version (in how many of the four books is min(k_kline, k_johnston) < min(k_riley, k_more)), and the eight-cell group means. These are descriptive and carry no registered threshold.

A7 — F4's three tests made concrete; its residual declined (critic Task A)

Applied to the four target books when they are finally read, against the Latin:

  1. Homograph rendering — a Latin word rendered by an English homograph or cognate-shaped form rather than by sense (e.g. nefas as "nefarious [thing]" where the syntax requires a noun object of videre).
  2. Referential absurdity — a fluent English clause that is false against the Latin it renders, in a way a competent reader of the Latin would not produce.
  3. Silent omission — a clause present in the Latin and absent or garbled in the English without an editorial mark.

Adjudicator: the lead, reading the English against the Latin. One confirmed instance voids the cell. Every instance found is quoted in the result with the Latin beside it so a reader can disagree. The verdict is internal-judgment-only.

Declined, as unfixable: the critic is right that this is not a coding rule. No rubric identifies machine output; reading does. S028 declined the same finding for the same reason. It remains the weakest joint in the humanity gate, and it is why the gate is also discharged on Book 1 by an independent route (dates, licence, institutional affiliation, corpus consistency).

A8 — F6 replaced by a diagnostic that needs no sentence splitter (critic Task A)

F6 as written required knowing which tokens "end a sentence", which requires a sentence splitter the design never specified. Replaced by:

F6′. For each text, count tokens whose final character is one of …‽!?.:;"' plus any character that R1's exemption list .!?:" does not contain but which is followed in the raw text by whitespace and a capitalised word. Report the count per 1000 tokens per text. If any text exceeds 2 per 1000, V-frozen is reported as unreliable for that text and only V-none is used for it.

This is computable from the raw text with no segmentation model, and it measures the thing note (ii) actually cares about: capitalised words that a name-detector will misread because the preceding character is not in the exemption list.

A9 — the confounds that stay untested, named (critic Task B.1, B.4, B.8)

Recorded as untested and binding on how any result is worded:

  1. Within-period translator habits. Riley and More may share Victorian editorial norms, biblical diction, name spellings, and an older Latin source edition; Kline and Johnston may share plain-English pedagogical convention and common dependence on the same modern commentaries. Two translators per period is better than one and is not a sample of a century. No result may be worded as a fact about a period.
  2. Same-form pairs are also particular translator pairs. A verse–verse effect could be conventional formula renderings or lineation artifacts rather than form.
  3. Literalness. n-gram overlap rewards literal, phrase-reusing translation. If the contemporary translators are more literal, the lead can look contemporary with period playing no causal role. The project has no literalness measure and none is invented here.

A10 — the contraction channel, carried over from S028 A2 (critic Task B.3)

Orthography — contractions, hyphenation, apostrophes, archaic spelling — can manufacture a period separation before any wording is involved. S028 found this channel live on a 1913/2014 pair and found that the lead used no contractions at all in 1,135 words.

A11 — the windows are not a sample of the poem (critic Task B.7)

All four target windows are lines 51–80 of their books. Book openings carry invocations, transitions, genealogies and a raised density of named entities, and lines 51–80 sit close to them. The selection rule is length-only and pre-committed, so it is not changed after the fact; the honest response is the statement itself:

The four windows are four fixed offsets in four books, not a sample of the Metamorphoses. Anything found about the lead's placement is found at one position in a book, four times.

A12 — book-boundary landmark check (critic Task B.11, Task E)

P2's correlation can pass while a book carries spillover from its neighbour — the failure mode riley's missing end boundary would produce. Added:

C4. For each text and each book, print the first eight and last eight tokens. The first tokens of book n+1 must not appear at the end of book n, and no book's extracted text may contain the heading string of another book. A failure here drops the text under F2's terms.

This is the check that catches "plausible but inflated" books, which is the corruption most likely to survive every other test in this design.

A13 — §5.1 rewritten as an implementable specification (critic Task C, Task D)

§5.1's prose is replaced by the following. Structure was inspected to write it — tag inventories, CSS class names, inline style attributes, heading strings — and no target prose was displayed.

A14 — the denominator contradiction, resolved by assertion and check (critic Task C)

§5.2 normalises per 1000 tokens of the shorter text; C3 said "per 1000 tokens of the lead's text". These agree only if the lead's window is always shorter than the published book, which the design asserted nowhere. The tool asserts it per cell and fails loudly if it does not hold. All 60 lead cells are expected to satisfy it by a wide margin (a 30-line window against a whole book), and the assertion is reported as checked rather than assumed.

A15 — the two gap-matched contrasts, registered properly (critic Task D, Task E)

§2's Q3 promised separability "in the two gap-matched contrasts available (§5.5)" — a wrong cross-reference to a section containing no such analysis, and no statistic, threshold or direction was ever registered. Note (r) again. Registered now:

A16 — the two conclusions the design was not entitled to draw (critic Task E)

§8's table is amended in two rows:

A18 — C4 stores the verdict, not the evidence, for the two in-copyright texts (2026-07-26, post-run)

A12 specified printing the first and last eight tokens of every text for every book. Applied literally that would place ~480 tokens of kline and johnston into a committed file, in sixty fragments. Charter §7 rule 5 permits brief attributed excerpts and this is defensible, but S028's precedent for the same translator was to store none, and the verification function does not require the evidence: what C4 needs to establish is that no book's extracted text contains another book's opening.

So for kline and johnston, runs/results.json records the token count and the boolean, and res["C4_pass"]. For lat, riley, more (public domain) and lead (project-authored) the tokens are recorded as specified. C4 passes: no book of either in-copyright text contains any other book's opening. This is a reduction in what is stored, not a relaxation of the check.